Dann Spader, legendary founder of SonLife Ministries and longtime leader of Concentric / Global Youth Initiative, joins Terry and Alan for a conversation about intentional disciple making. He reminds us that making disciples is hard, but it's easier than we think. He challenges us to understand that making disciples requires both new wine and new wineskins and to believe that every believer who wants to be part of a a disciple making movement will have a wilderness experience.

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